Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Christian Warriors and Not… I am posting a conversation that took place today on the subject of “COMING OUT” and it was started by a fellow man of the cloth Archbishop George Booty. I merely address support for his comment and then I was “CALLED OUT” by another man of the cloth, Br. Barry Frier who claims to be a “Gay Clergy”.
What follows is the banter back and forth between him and I. So without hate, without screaming, without getting overly carnal, I am posting this conversation to show why mankind needs to Reverence, Fear and Love God and not personal will.
Remember folks, we are in the end of times and at this moment, as far as I am concerned, every man, woman and child’s soul and eternal life is at stake. Trust me when I say that the stakes have never been higher. Satan is the master of deception and manipulation and will without a doubt, win billions of souls, unless we take very seriously the tactic’s and the deception that Satan uses to twist the minds and heart of man, from God. Which is to a point of no return.
If I’ve said it once, then I have said it a hundred times and that is I don’t care about your feels in the same way that mankind does, what I care most about is your eternal salvation and how fragile it is. It bothers me a great deal to see and know that most of the world’s population doesn’t even recognize that their eternal salvation is not only at stake but that it is the one most precious gift God gave to man, next to giving us His only begotten son Jesus Christ, for the redemption of our sins.
Did Christ die in vain for you? Surely not. Are you once saved always saved? Again, surely not. So why gamble on your eternal soul even making it into heaven and forcing your self-will and self-gratification on those people who love and fear God and work everyday to preserve and protect this precious gift.
It is what I want for you, them and all mankind. My personal “carnal” philosophy is to not let the Devil win, by any and all means possible. We are called to fight him at every occurrence wherever we find him. Recognizing what is of him and not as we come into contact with him or his demons and trust me when I say, that Satan knows the Holy Scriptures far better then the most learned theologian on the planet. Yet we can win this battle for mankind’s eternal soul, for the Holy Scripture sates, that if God before us, then who can be against us. God with us, and God in us.
So read this conversation and then, come and stand with me on the side of Gods Holy Will for yourself and everyone in the world. Even if that piece of the world is only where you are and those that you come into contact with.
Sincerely, IHS and yours, whether you like it or not ! Bishop Andrew R. M. Manley
So much in the news about coming out! I am coming out today… Here it is… I am coming out first as ‘Christian’ a follower of Jesus Christ who is my Savior… and then I am coming out as an ‘Englishman’ and proud of it…
I am coming out for many things for myself… I am coming out as a Heterosexual and very happy to be one… without condemnation of Gay people…
I no longer wish to follow public opinion so I am coming out as a person who is more concerned with Godly wisdom rather than the modern trend of politically correct nonsense, where common sense and Godly values are lost to the downgrade of the consensus of public opinion, which is often leaderless, confused and depraved.
I am fed up with living in a time when there is so much that is destroying families and marriage as an institution so I am coming out for Marriage and remarriage too where appropriate. I don’t care who you want to marry, as for me and my house we will serve the Lord. It is to every man’s conscience before God to decide what they wish to do..
And now having celebrated my Savior’s day… I am coming out as a person who is a Lover of God and my religion is to be simply a follower of JESUS. Amen. I am coming out today against anything that sets itself up against God in Jesus. . Christ His only Son. I am coming out as a Convergence Minister believing that we are one body in Christ. There are many things I wish to come out about and I will continue to do so in this coming New Year. Bless you all. ~ +++George.
SeniorBishop Primus Andrew Manley Amen Br. Booty, I to came out sometime ago and have drawn the proverbial line in the sand and stand solely on our Lords Holy and Divine word and teachings. It’s time we members of clergy make known with out question where we stand on the Holy and Loving word of God. What say you ?
Barry Frier While I agree with somethings that are put, I also feel that saying your “coming out” is something that has of lately been made to be a negative thing. Why do you feel you have to “come out” as a Christian etc…… its clear to most if not all who you are, but the mere thing of being a Bishop, Priest Deacon within the church. I personally never came out as a Christian or a priest or anything else which you have put in your message. The only “coming out” I did was as a gay person and this was for the reason that I believe I had to be honest not just with myself but with family and friends and people around me. So I would ask you Why the words “coming out”
SeniorBishop Primus Andrew Manley For me, it is more about be honest with the word of God and the drawn line and not crossing it except to reach over and help someone to come to Christ. In other words I don’t give a hand out, but rather a hand up to sinners, of which I am the Master Chief. However, I do have a question for you and an honest answer is what I would like as I just gave you mine to your question. That is do you selectively preach the Holy Scriptures or do you preach the whole truth and reflect His ways and examples in your personal and private life as the light on the table ? Meaning, live as the Holy Word of God say’s in all facets of your life. Or do as the word of God say’s and do as I do, attitude. Just curious. You say you are “gay” and that is your choice. However, I have to ask why you do not fear God but rather live what He is against? Like I said, I’m curious, I’m not trying to argue or pick a fight. But merely trying to understand and put into perspective what you preach and how you justify it in the Holy Eyes of God’s Word. Thanks, in advance for your answer. Sincerely IHS and yours, Bp. Andrew
Barry Frier Thank you for your answer, while I follow the word of God, I also understand it in my own life, if I’m to be judged then God will do this. If I’m tone condemned then God will do it, if in people’s eyes I and others like me are an abomination as it says in Leviticus then God will tell me when we meet face to face. Being Gay is not a choice I have always been this way, I’ve never found the opposite sex, sexual attractive but I do say they are beautiful, if a gay people are wrong in Gods eyes why does he call us to be ministers of his gospel?
SeniorBishop Primus Andrew Manley So you preach the Holy and Divine word of God selectively and or manipulate His Holy Word to fit your life style. Well that is not what the Apostles, Christ or God teach for folks to follow. Secondly and to answer your question ” if a gay people are wrong in Gods eyes why does he call us to be ministers of his gospel ?” In my opinion and understanding of the Holy Scripture, I’m not so sure He did call those who flatly refuse to accept His ways and Holy Word for their life. Granted, all sin can and will be forgiven except the one who blasphemies the Holy Spirit, which includes the Father and the Son for whom all are one in the Holy Spirit. However, even Christ Himself says “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.” Matthew 18., verse 6… So like I said, I’m not sure who called you to deify His ideals of what is right and wrong. As for me and my house, they will know the whole word and nothing but the word of God. Don’t get me wrong, I love all people’s from all walks of life, but it is my calling to help them to recognize their sinful nature, and repent and live His truth not mans, opinion. I guess we agree to disagree. No wonder there are over 34,000 plus and growing interpretations of the Holy Bible. I’m reminded of the book Revelation 22, verse 18 & 19, which states : 18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” … As I see it and understand it, it is the entire Holy Bible, every book that Christ is speaking of, not just Revelation’s… I’m not judging you for if I were, I would not quote Scripture. I speak from the heart and the fact that God resides in me and I in Him. There is no room for carnal thinking anymore. If it does creep into my heart and mind, then I immediately upon recognizing it as sin, I purge myself through humility and prayerful meditation and reflection asking God to help me over come that which is by His definition an abomination to Him and sanctify and strengthen me to resolve this from me so that I do not cause someone else to sin and fall away from His will, deigning my own selflessness. To the point of in His words again, being in the world but are no longer part of it… Again, No disrespect, but I shall pray for you and others and even offer my hand to help you up out of your self-centered sinful nature of personal choice… Humbly your friend, Bp. Andrew
Barry Frier Regarding preaching, I preach on what God puts in my heart, I’m happy that this whole thing was brought up, I don’t come to change people’s minds on the whole subject of coming out or on the subject of being LGBT, I see it as an education. Not just on my side but I think that both parties can educate each other and we can all can understand each part. Hate the Sin but Love the Sinner and maybe we all can help build the Kingdom of God
SeniorBishop Primus Andrew Manley I guess you did not read what I just stated, but then that is your choice. Blessings upon you and in abundance…
Barry Frier No I just read it and please I don’t need your prayers, and don’t ever preach at me, I’ve been in ministry for 13 years and have started 5 successful churches and one in which I’m still the senior pastor. On the subject of the apostles please when the universal life church have the sacred apostolic lines back to Christ himself then you can start by all means and preach at me. I don’t need or want your prayers or blessing. And yes I’m angry.
SeniorBishop Primus Andrew Manley Not very Christ like is it. Just trying to have an open and honest conversation which you started with a question. Also, I’ve been ministering since 1986, and was raised as an orphan in a Convent of Franciscan Sisters since 1965. So don’t think for a moment that I’m worried about your feelings, because I’m not. Your right as for we will all stand in judgement before God however, Christ and the Church taught me that we are to judge “righteously”, Mathew 7, verses 1 – 5 : “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye… So I will judge according to the Holy Word of God. I hold no malice, no anger, no frustration, no condemnation towards you or anyone for that mater, for we all have fallen short of the Glory of God the Father. So no matter what you say, think or feel I will always lift you and all of the Lords called up in prayer. For I am an exult-er of prayer for all people. I care for all mankind’s souls, and I care very much about yours and all that feel the way you do. The condemnation you are feeling is God trying to get through to you. It truly is the only reason I can see why your taking my remarks so personal. There just facts. No mater what though, I do wish you a very blessed and very Happy New Year… Sincerely caring and worried for all mankind’s souls, I will fight and endure until the end for all……