Just for the Ladies…

Weather you are a Non-Denominational Christian Woman or an Independent Catholic Woman, I would like to  Introduce  to you our ministries, Mother Superiors.

Mother Superior
Linda Ann Kreeger O.S.MM.
Director of the Sisterhood of the Holy Order of Saint Mary Magdalene

Mother Superior Linda Ann Kreeger O.S.MM. of the Order of Saint Mary Magdalene of our Non-Denominational Christian Ministry the New Horizons Church of the Celtic Cross & Director of the Sisterhood associated with this part of our ministry… And yes folks we are very aware that we are the ONLY non-denominational ministry that has a sisterhood of nuns. However, Mother Superior made some very strong points as to why we should have our own order in the Non-Denominational Church and so we have it.

Also meet,
Mother Superior Lady Sheila Tracey Sherwood O.S.B. of the Order of Saint Brigid of Ireland of our Independent Catholic Ministry the Traditional Old Catholic Church of the Celtic Cross & Director of the Sisterhood associated with that part of the ministry… And here to ladies, we believe we are the only Independent Catholic Church Ministry that has an order of nun’s as well. And I must say that the dedication shown by these women is second to “none”. ( lol, a little play on words)…

Mother Superior
Lady Sheila Tracey Sherwood O.S.B.
Director of the Sisterhood to the Holy Order of Saint Brigid of Ireland

So, please keep both Mother Superiors in your prayers as they embark on a good will mission to seek other Christian Women who wish to serve the Lord Jesus Christ and His Church around the world. Bringing them to fellowship and service to Him where ever the Lord takes them and and to those He puts in their paths to join the Holy Sisters of the Convent of Divine Faith, Hope, Charity, as well as the Convent of Charity and Prayer…

On behalf of both Mothers, I personally wish to thank you in advance for your remembering these very devout Women of God, for and in their love and service to the Heavenly Father and all mankind.

Sincerely yours in service to Christ Jesus the King,
Bishop Andrew R. M. Manley DD., O.S.A., O.S.P.
Celtic Cross Ministry and the Celtic Cross Foundation of Ministry

For More information on the Sisters of Cenobite and their respective Holy Orders,

please follow the link below and see for your self what they are all about in Service to Christ the King.

http://www.celticcrossministry.com/sisterhood_of_cenobite.html )

FUN FACTS !!! Do you know the Twelve Apostles of Ireland ?

Salutations Warriors, Bishop Andrew here, I do a lot of research for the ministry and every once and awhile something pops up that catches my interest. Mostly because Celtic Cross Ministry is the newest Irish American and World Wide Ministry on the planet, and we are also the fastest growing Christian Ministry that deals with a true and very proud ethnic heritage. On occasions we find it interesting when something comes along that we feel folks around the world including our fellow brothers and sisters in the Roman Catholic Church, may not know about their own faith.

Now with that said I came across the title of the blog piece from a Wikipedia search, whom I am so very thankful for their collaboration with others on this subject matter. In apart, to help folks like you and I, to have a better understanding of the “History of our faith, Christianity”. Centuries in the making even if it is just a glimpse into the characters of those that have show a dedication and love for Christ and His ministry of faith that is Christianity. The Twelve Apostles of Ireland was a topic that I as an Irish American had never heard of. Not even when in my youth being raised by the Franciscan Sisters at our little convent here in Ohio. Convent might be a slight stretch of the word however, we did just called it home.

Nonetheless, this subject definitely caught my attention and I thought it might be nice to help you, and others around the world to explore the faith in a new and interesting way. Most every person in the world with the exceptions of a few, celebrate this heritage at least one day a year. That day many folks, maybe even you, call themselves Irish with the celebration of the feast of Saint Patrick, the Patron Saint of Ireland. Maybe in this small way you might understand and appreciate the awesome history of the heritage of this small but very great Irish Nation.

So read on and if your curiosity peeks during your glances, than by all means click the links and follow where it takes you. That’s just half the fun of it. I am very sure you will be very, very blessed for taking an interest in the Saints that made a difference in their time as we here at Celtic Cross Ministry and the Christian Warrior Network pray, that you do with your life. Making a difference in a positive way in your personal journey through life, is one of the gifts God gives you each day. And that is to try and not only make a difference in the world but make it positive as well. Just as these holy men of God did in their journey here on earth.

I pray you will enjoy you experience through the works of people that thought you should know. I say for now, God Bless and have an awesome day. Oh, and remember, knowledge is power. Besides being great for trivia games…

Sincerely blessed because of you, and them,  Bishop Andrew R. M. Manley, DD., O.S.P.

The Celtic Cross Foundation of Ministry and the Universal Life Church of the Celtic Cross.

Twelve Apostles of Ireland

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St. Finnian imparting his blessing to the Twelve Apostles of Ireland

This article is about the group of Irish saints. For the IRA unit sometimes known as the Twelve Apostles, see The Squad (Irish Republican Army unit).

The Twelve Apostles of Ireland (also known as Twelve Apostles of Erin)(Irish: An Dá Aspal Déag) were twelve early Irish monastic saints of the sixth century who studied under St Finian at his famous monastic school Clonard Abbey at Cluain-Eraird (Eraird’s Meadow), now Clonard in County Meath.[1]


Dá apstol décc na hÉrenn

The twelve saints are grouped together as such in the text Dá apstol décc na hÉrenn (“The Twelve Apostles of Ireland”, the modern Irish being An Dá Aspal Déag na hÉireann). The text is preserved in a manuscript belonging to Michael O’Clery, Brussels, Bibliothèque Royale MS 2324–2340, and elsewhere. When the so-called twelve apostles of Ireland are gathered together for a feast in the house of St Finian, a magical flower appears in their midst. It is decided that a voyage to the flower’s homeland is to be undertaken by one of them, the choice of person then being determined by casting lots. When however, the lot falls on the old Brendan of Birr, his younger namesake Brendan moccu Altae goes in his stead. Brendan sets out with many companions and undergoes many adventures, much as related in Brendan’s Life.[2]

Clonard Abbey

Main article: Clonard Abbey

In Early Christian Ireland the druidic tradition was succeeded or absorbed by the new Christian faith. Study of Latin learning and Christian theology in monasteries flourished. Clonard Abbey, situated on the River Boyne in modern County Meath was one of the main monastic schools. During the sixth century, some of the most significant names in the history of Irish Christianity studied at the Clonard monastery. It is said that the average number of scholars under instruction at Clonard was 3,000. Twelve students who studied under St. Finian became known as the Twelve Apostles of Ireland.[1]

The Twelve Apostles

The Twelve Apostles of Erin, as they were known by old Irish writers, are said to have been:

Finnen of Cluain Iraird, now Clonard in Meath. He died in the year 522.
Ciaran of Cluain Mic Nois, now Clonmacnoise, on the Shannon, in the barony of Garrycastle, County Offaly, died in the year 549.
Brenainn of Birra – St. Brenainn, or Brendan, of Birra, now Birr, County Offaly. He died on the 29th of November 571.
Brenainn, the son of Finnloga, the patron saint of the see of Clonfert, in County Galway, was born in 484, and died in 577 aged 94.
Colum Mac Crimthainn, was abbot of Tir-da-glas, now Terryglass, in the barony of Lower Ormond, in the county of Tipperary, and died in 552, the same year as St. Finen of Clonard.
Colum Cille. – St. Columbkille was born in the year 521, and died in the year 597, aged 75. Columba was an outstanding figure among the Gaelic missionary monks who some of his advocates claim introduced Christianity to the Kingdom of the Picts during the early medieval period.
Mobhi Clarainech, patron of Glasnaidhen, now Glasnevin, near Dublin. He died on 12th of October 545
Ruadhain of Lothra – St. Ruadain, the patron of Lothra, now Lorrha, in County Tipperary. He died on the 15th of April 584.
Ninnadh the Pious, the patron of the parish of Inis Muighe Samh, now Inismacsaint, in the north-west of County Fermanagh. He was alive in 530 but the year of his death is uncertain.
Molaisi, the son of Nadfraech, he was the brother of Aengus, the first Christian king of Munster and died in 570.
Cainnech Mac h-Ui Dalann, the patron of Aghaboe in County Laois, who died in 599 at the age of 84.
Finnen of Magh Bile, now Movilla, in County Down. He died in the year 576.

See also


  1. ^ a b Gratton-Flood, W.H. (March 1, 1907). “The Twelve Apostles of Erin”. The Catholic Encyclopedia (New York: Robert Appleton Company) I. Retrieved 2008-02-09
  2. ^ Mac Mathúna, “The Irish Life of Saint Brendan“, pp. 147-9.


  • Dá apstol décc na hÉrenn, ed. Charles Plummer (1922). Oxford. 2 vols: 1 and 2. Clarendon. pp. 96–102 (vol. 1, text), 93–8 (vol. 2, translation). See also pp. xxiv–xxv (vol. 1).
  • Mac Mathúna, Séamus (2006). “The Irish Life of Saint Brendan: Textual History, Structure and Date”. In Glyn S. Burgess and Clara Strijbosch. The Brendan Legend: Texts and Versions. Leiden and Boston: Brill. pp. 117–58.

External links


Twelve Apostles of Ireland

Jesus & Apostolic Age
The Nicene Creed at the First Council of Nicaea
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Chain Link Fence

This quick press post is going to be a,  come to,  part of our blog. From time to time I will add another link to the chain ( just copy & paste into your browser ) so you can check out what is new with the ministry. So please no sitting on or climbing over the fence, but instead,  why not let it guide you to new things within this ministry.

1.) http://youtu.be/BdCdq6vwVeE   ( My Prayer Closet ).

Why, Easter?

I thought this important enough to repost it from an article from our main ULCworld hq., news paper. Many folks may have forgotten the real reason why we celebrate the Easter Holy Day…. So here is a little reminder of why.

Easter Means Eternal Life

A perfect God demands a perfect justice;
He cannot let us get away with sin.
We used God’s gift of our free will to trespass,
So heaven’s gates were closed; we couldn’t get in.

Our sin required our blood, a sacrifice,
To atone for all the wrongs that we had done.
“But I love them!” cried our Father, filled with sorrow;
“I’ll send my only Son to be the one.”

Good Friday marks the slaying of our Jesus,
The unblemished lamb, the perfect sacrifice.
He took our guilt and blame upon Himself,
So we could be with Him in paradise.

On Easter morning, he came back from death;
He vanished from the tomb, the empty grave.
His resurrection means eternal life
For us, the ones he came to earth to save.

This summarizes all the Easter story
And because of it, we’ll be with Him in glory.

By Joanna Fuchs

When is a Prophet not a Prophet?




Warriors and laity around the world, hear ye, hear ye. When is a Prophet not a Prophet? When we that are being prophesied to, don’t ad-hear to their words!


Most every Christian or even mortal man has heard at one time or another the quotes of our Savior in reference to “profit”, and I’ll quote the book of Matthew as to the subject of which.


In the, NKJV – Matthew ch., 16 v., 26 … For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or rather the question should be as to – what will a man give in exchange for his soul? Granted the same paraphrase is alluded to in the books of Mark – ch.,8:36 and, as well as Luke – 9: 25.


But this is not the type of profit I refer to in this segment. What I will say is to the actual term of Prophet (spelled as P_R_O_P_H_E_T and not the latter, which is spelled as P_R_O_F_I_T.)


Now I can see, and understand how confusing the English language can appear to those that don’t grasp the incidentals of it. I should also note here that the word known as Prophet , p_h_e_t, was termed differently in Israel (That is to say that, when a man went to get guidance and understanding of Gods word, he spoke to a “SEER”, now called a prophet.) In this next book, 2ND Chronicles I will make mention of the dealings with the Trustworthiness and even the Rejection of the Prophets. Thought brief as they may be.


Again in the, NKJV – 2ND Chronicles, 20: 20 … Refers to the first ( Trustworthiness) When Jehoshaphat stood and said, “Hear me, O Judah and you inhabitants of Jerusalem: Believe in the LORD your God, and you shall be established; believe His prophets, and you shall prosper.”


The two notations of inference here are ( be established ) and, ( shall prosper.) The Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary states the word ( established as ) to institute (as a law) permanently by enactment or as I think of it, as one being anchored in … and, the term ( shall prosper ) as to become strong and flourishing.


So when you think about what this verse really means it can be said that to believe in the Lord God is to be permanently anchored in your belief and understanding, of His promises and when you come to an understanding of this concept, then you shall be enriched for the better coming to the realization of this fact by one who is sent by God to you, thus allowing you to be factually informed as to His truth. And I don’t mean the “prophets version of truth but, that of Gods truth or rather promise.



Now also in the book of the 2ND Chronicles 36: 15 -16 deals with the rejection of prophets and states. The LORD God of their fathers sent warnings to them by His messengers, rising up early and sending them because He had compassion on His people and on His dwelling place. 16) But they mocked the messengers of God, despised His words, and scoffed at His prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against His people, till there was no remedy.


These verses are not quite as simple to grasp to an unbelievers understanding. That is, as it is and should be taken more seriously. In verse 15 the greater inference is the “warning” which has been sounded from the roof tops sense it was written. Yet many in the modern era still just think them to be just the ramblings of a time long ago and not as relevant today.


I recon that is why what jumps off the page here, (at least to me is) that most folks know and understand what a warning is. Just the thought of it is rather scary and unsettling. Benjamin Franklin who most assuredly is one of our nations wisest men was quoted as to have said “Early to bed, early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise.” I often wonder if he came to this realization of fact from this verse where the author states, “ by His messengers, rising up early and sending them, because He had compassion on His people. Another clushay of a quote is that “the early bird gets the worm”… LOL… it only makes better since to draw the conclusion through these clushays to bring home a point of reference and understanding that the words “early rising, send or rather sent them, meaning the ones who tried to bring understanding to the people. The same can be said of us even to this day. That the clushay quote reference to the word “worm”, means as it is referred to in many passages of the Holy Scriptures as “meat” and no folks not the understanding of the word to meet someone, but rather to the reference of the subsistence and comprehension. Be it a real life-sustaining nourishment or the nourishment of ones soul. Preferably to your soul and to your betterment of understanding of Gods “warnings.”.


We as a whole, of our human nature still denounce the teachings of Christ Jesus and the Prophets, as mankind did all those many years ago. When the author states that God, “had compassion on His people and on His dwelling place.” still holds a great truth today. There is a small clarification on the tail end of this passage that refers to “His dwelling place”, which may need that clarification.


Yes God still has compassion on the human race, so don’t get your bees in a bonnet….lol…I am referring to a two-fold meaning of the word dwelling. Which means to “dwell or live within, and they are that of the obvious, which being is Jerusalem, in Israel. Not the Jerusalem in Yates County, New York .


No disrespect intended to the folks that call it home. But rather as the term dwelling being Zion, Church, Temple and or held in endearment in one’s heart. It is why the Holy Trinity has not given up on us, where He has patients and, many times we don’t. He is not without limits. I mean, we all have been a bit short fused from time to time not only with our fellow-man but when things don’t go our way we turn our wrath on Him. He is the one who never wavers on compassion, forgiveness and yes even love.


However, as the author puts it so succinctly, that being “But they mocked the messengers of God, despised His words, and scoffed at His prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against His people, till there was no remedy.


Here’s a question for you, are not ministers, priests, clerics and clergy in general still not taken seriously even today? So, if true, than we can conclude there is still relevance in these words as to Gods messengers ( that is as godly men and women are referred to).


Many in the world today “despise His words, mostly because, (and I think,) that there is a perception that His word takes all the “fun” out of life and that it is words that mean “don’t s. I have to say that this is so far from the truth that it “almost becomes laughable to even contemplate the notion.” However, it should be a blue print in our lives as to how to live life. How to act with regards to respect as with person, places and things. And for now a better term would be, “reverence” to the world around us.


Yet now comes the hard part for folks to come to grips with and that is because we have been brainwashed to the point of excrescence that God is the opposite of that last part of the 16Th verse, which being “until the wrath of the LORD arose against His people, till there was no remedy.”


It seems to me that mankind forgets that God has a temper and like us He does become short in patients and also that we are constantly in violation of the second commandment given to Moses by God himself and that being “Thou shalt have no other gods before me”! Please before you say it isn’t so, think! Do we by an act of human nature, place things in a higher standing in our lives than this one commandment? Think about it for a moment, would you not be even somewhat put a miffed if you yourself have to take the back seat. That is in regard to what you thought was more or even most important? Then it only goes to show and reenforced by the fact, that though God is a loving God and that He, has great compassion for you. Along with understanding as well as patients with you and even all of us in the world. Remember, so as not to forget that though you might feel like the 12 man on the football field or the 9Th man on the ball field that it is tough for us to be that “odd man out”.


So, in closing please, please don’t think of yourself any less for falling short of His glory, for God knows all to well that we are only human. And by the way, I’m thinking that my last comment here, isn’t likely to hold any weight when it comes to judgment-day. I thank the heavens that Christ walked this same world as you and I, and that He suffered and died to save all mankind.


With warmest and sincere affection to all, God bless and don’t forget, He made you in His image and that He didn’t make any “junk”, only mankind does…Love always,


Chaplain, Andrew R. M. Manley DD. o.s.m., o.s.f., o.s.p., of the ULCCC.

“Hail Mary” !…or NOT!

Thank you Sister Hanna, sorry for taking such a long time to get back online here with the A.O.C.I.
I have missed you all so very much, though you all have been in my devotions all this time.

I can appreciate your statement and I see your point as well. Yes, I am also sure that for every context I make in proving my point here, you shall be able to do the same. That just goes to show that the scriptures mean different things to different folks. It is a matter of the Christian faith and the faithful going down “denominational” or even “traditional”, paths of doctrine.

If this were not so, than justify to me why Christianity being “the largest religious belief system in the world with more than 2.2 billion people world wide and, that of Christianity it’s self with more than 33,820 different denominations”. So which of the is right and which is wrong? That is to say they all read and preach from the same book don’t they? How then can we as “Christians”, judge one another for a doctrine or belief or even, lack of doctrine that excepts and professes the same writings of the inspired word of God?

Don’t worry, I’m not setting anyone up to argue one point or another. What I will say is that I believe in the same scriptures as the next person, it is neither ludicrous nor any more dangerous than the other beliefs. Meaning again, that it is left to “interpretation”. As an example of which I am sure, I’m going to press more than a few buttons when I state this but, I hope it will open the heart and minds of clergy that have taken the “hard line of indoctrination to an extreme to their congregations. My example is this and I’ll try to be fair and open minded when I say this because it is a stretch to even put them into the same category of “Christian Faith”.

OK, take a deep breath now, let it out slowly, and here goes. In the deep south here in the USA over our history as a nation, or even throughout the worlds history there have been 10’s of thousands of incidents documented throughout, but I will refrain and restrain myself to American history and that being an example of the black church congregations preaching from the KJV of the Holy Bible as well as say, members of the “KKK’, which drew their rhetoric from the same book. Yet lets bring the time line up a bit and, remind folks that racial tensions were still prevalent almost 100 years later, in the 1950’s and 60’s, when segregation was at an all time high in this country. We believed in the promises of the same scripture then, didn’t we? Though if you want to say that, then that was the dark days of our history. I might give you that, but I would again remind you that of even more recent history being that we have had church burnings, people beaten, communities in an upheaval, and yet we still all read from the same scripture.

I guess you could say it’s not the same thing, that some groups of “Christians are more radical than others and yet some are more passive than others”. Then in that case, I would have to say you are correct again. BUT, (I just love that word, that and the one call if), they both are the two most misused words in the English language. Well, I’ve said it once I’ve said it a thousand times and that is that it is the clergies fault. And yes I resemble the remark and NO, I’m not point the proverbial finger at any one denomination but I am pointing three of them back at myself. That is to say for sitting in a building week after week, month after month and year after year in a pew called a church and then having someone I was always taught that they were an expert on the subject of Christian values, preaching doctrine to me until I was old enough to understand for myself the error of most every denomination of Christianity in the world.

That is all 33 plus thousand of them and some 14 thousand here in the good old U. S. of A. Please, I don’t sit back and just think up this stuff up, I do however, sit back and try to make since of the world religions and why one thinks they have all the right answers while all others, are doomed to spend an eternity in the fiery pit of hell for not believing the same things that another does.

Isn’t this very thing still happening today? One might say yes, while another, will say no. But (there’s that little word again), but, I say we need more diversity in our congregations, we need to be teaching the scriptures that relate to tolerance and the “love thy neighbor as they self teachings. Granted, there is a “war” going on with the sides being “us against them”, you know what I’m referring to and you can take that anyway you’d like to, (but),…lol…if it looks like a skunk and it smells like a skunk than don’t sit or stand there and tell me that it’s a kitty cat. Because I just might believe you or maybe not. That doesn’t mean that I want to harm you or your family or even your country. Just because I don’t agree with you. It does however mean, that I have a right to “interpret what is said and that I have a right in my own self to make up my own mind as to what is truth and what is fiction or rather a lie. Shucks, we can’t even keep our own children from going down a path that we know we would not. But to each his own. Diversity, it is a wonderful thing.

When I was just a young lad in my freshman year of high school, I had taken an elective course in this very subject. Not because someone told me I had to, nor because I thought it would be good for me to experience. See as I’ve said before I was raised Roman Catholic and in the community I grew up in, there were tensions between the Catholic’s and the Baptists and they were always at odds with each other, things like spare the rod not the child while the other would say spare the child and not the rod, and it effected the community as a whole. As an example I offer you this analogy, Catholic children did not associate with Baptist children outside of the class room unless it was behind our parents backs, or unless you grew up in a house hold that was taught tolerance. As for the other faiths within the community, they just kinda sat back and let the two largest groups of “faith” go at each other. Then from the pulpit they would make their case for their belief. Then there were the community functions that were supposed to be community oriented. It seemed that the only time things would settle down was during the major school sporting event when we would come together to route for our home team, that is unless we where playing against each other.

I know, I’ve gone off Que a bit, then again have I? When I said it was biblical I meant what I said, part of the universal or another word for universal is Catholic, praying of the “hail Mary” comes from the book of Luke chapter 1, verse 28 through 48 and it is in this part of scripture that the “universal / Catholic, prayer known as the “Hail Mary” is thought to have come from and it has been around since the year 1263, maybe even further back, no one is for sure. What is fact is that it was being said several times a day in and around the third century by the Franciscan monks of the time.

So again my question is, that if the Catholic Church being the most powerful and domineering religion in the world at that point in world history gives us some indication as to how long and how many people through the years have been reciting this little known prayer. Than how can you say it should not be recited or said. I know, Jesus taught us how to pray and with what words to say, that doesn’t mean however that all prayer is wrong and should not be said. For if what you say should be the way and I would say that most of the other 33 plus thousand denominations would concur, than that would make our ancestors Hippocrates. For that would be out right un-tolerable with the church law of the day. Just like Jesus’ teachings were in direct conflict with Jewish law.

What folks seem to misunderstand the most about this prayer is that we who recite it are not praying to Mary but asking her to pray for us. Here are a few facts, not that many of you who may read this will agree with it is however no never mind to me. For we are all subject to our own judgment before the the Father and Christ defending us through intersession on our behalf. It is still after all, “FACT”.

The meaning of the Hail Mary prayer as I have already eluded to, is to ask Mary to pray for us. She is immaculate. She also has never displeased God, and she gave birth to God the Son who had become flesh by the power of the Holy Ghost. This as you pointed out was done by the will of God and that He used Mary for
His purpose as He even still today uses us to do His work in this world.

Don’t take my comments the wrong way, it is not my intent to pick a fight or start my own personal Holy War…(Funny thing about those last two words in this statement, I don’t ever recall the two words ever being used by Christ in His teachings and nor in my studies of the Kuran do the words appear together in the same sentience). But what is another fact is that what may be the “hope of the world from killing each other off, is the blessed mother of Christ, who is the Holy Mother of God. How can I say such a thing you maybe asking, it is almost sacrilegious that I would even imply such a statement. Well folks It’s the Gods truth and I shall not apologize for it either.

If I’m not mistaken the blessed mother in reference to the birth of Jesus who also being recognized as the King of the Jews and Him ruling over the house of David forever is mentioned several times. I think I read or heard somewhere, that she may be the saving grace of humanity yet once again, for she is mentioned more than 30 times in the book of Islam. Although as with several Christian faiths, I’m sure there are those in the Islamic faith that would disagree with these facts as well…Ohhhhya, that’s whats going on right this very minute isn’t it? Disagreement on the spiritual plain.

Folks from all faiths, beliefs and or religion need to learn to accept change and tolerance and quite listening to doctrine, but instead, learn theology, for it is diversification that will aid us in our tomorrows.

Well folks thanks and may God bless you and again thank you for your comments, I appreciate you as well. As for other folks that will differ just to differ, then I just hope you are not right, for if you are, than there is little hope for mankind, ever! But…:) I believe in two very important sayings and I have taken some liberty here because it is instilled into my heart and sole and that being, as for me and my house we shall serve the Lord for he is the truth the light and the way, for a house divided cannot stand…the latter part being from the books of Matthew, 12:25, Mark, 3:25 and Luke, 11:17…for are we to believe these three men of God are wrong, Nay, I say for they are only quoting God, aren’t they…?

Sincerely, the Lord Jesus’ humble servant to humanity,
Msgr. Andrew R. M. Manley DD. O.S.M. Chaplain

Sister Hannas comment,

with interest I was reading your defenting about Maria. First I want to let you knwo that I appriciate you much!
But I would like to say, that Maria is not a the Holy Woman as the catholic church is painting her. I remember that Jesus himself pointed out that everyone that does HIS will is his mother and brother and sister and so on, as you know. This he said in Canaa. Anyway, we as born again christian have only ONE MEDITATOR and this is JESUS, isnt he?
Your argue that we can call upon her in our need. And this is what we sould nt do, because she will not help us she is just a saint as everybopdy else now in heaven.
GOD used this wonderful woman at HIS Time for HIS purpose and so he did it with the different other men and woman too. Mary had to fullfill a Holy Task, yes and GOD will honor her for this. BUT she is NOT able to help us. If we believe she can, than; I see it from the WORD of GOD, we will do Idolotry!
Of cause you can and we can appriciate her as the Mother of the Saviour, but that s all, isnt it?

Great to know you and may the LORD of Heaven and EARTH bless you with Freedom and pour out all the wisdom and Knowledge you may need for your Ministry!
Much blessings from Germany! Hanna

Doctor Henry, President of the A.O.C.I.

Interesting Article Dr. Manley. I think I understand your article and to be honest, I don’t think anyone has ever put it this way. Mary was and is the mother of God (Jesus)…..hum….when you stop to think about this, some of the points you make start to make sense. In addition, I also know that YOU DO NOT BELIEVE OR HAVE YOUR ASSURANCE OF SALVATION IN MARY, so that is refreshing.

Thanks for challenging our minds here.

God bless.

Dr. Hunt,

I am not arguing anything that you have said, for I know this already. I am not talking about salvation, or healing, or anything like that. Yes I know that Christ is the comforter but, the way this statement was made was in my answer to someones question dealing with a family being torn apart, by actions of other members of this family. The person was stating a fact that was happing in regards to the emotional stress that her mother was going through. In the way that the situation was tearing her heart apart from the hurtful things being said about their family. This response was meant as a way to help the mother and others deal with the stress of the accusations.

The blessed mother suffered immensely, because of the accusations of those that lied and manipulated facts to justify the end means for the crucifixion of her son our savior Jesus Christ. I do believe that by calling on the saints from time to time, we can draw into a deeper relationship with our own spirituality, which when you think about it, is a major problem with society today that is that we are not deeply faithful in our beliefs. There are many other faiths in our world that are more devoted to their beliefs than we so called Christians are about the our relationship with the Holy Trinity.

We all have a purpose on this planet we call home. That also went for those that came before us, and it will go for those that come after us as well. As an example to this statement I will refer to the Bible itself, words written by others on events of their day, which we today still hold true and dear to our hearts and directly responsible for our salvation and guidance on how we should live and treat others. This is a fact throughout history of the world, even today when a commentary is made or an editorial is published in regards to religious beliefs it can move the masses into action.

There is no difference today nor yesterday nor tomorrow as for what people will have to go through in order to get through a tough situation, but yet never forgetting that love and wisdom, compassion and sympathy are gifts that Father has give to each and everyone in the world, but that there are those that do not use these gifts.

If knowledge is power and there is power in the word of God through the writings of the Holy Bible, than how can my statement be untrue. Do ministers not manipulate the words of the bible to fit their sermons or express their point by quoting bits and pieces to fit the need of a situation, and yet taking the true intent of those scriptures to the extreme of their meaning? I know that when I lose something, I say a small prayer to St. Anthony to help guide me to finding that lost item and there it is, and when I was a fireman, I prayed not only to God but also to Saint Florian and to St. Michael for protection when I was in security and bodyguard work.

How is this a wrong thing, when we as a culture of Christians and non Christians celebrate holidays like, Valentines day, Halloween and All saints day or even our national day of prayer. The fact remains that people will cry out for help when the need arises and mostly they cry out to God, when they should be crying out to Jesus, yet Jesus doesn’t get offended.

For is it not true that the only unforgivable sin is blaspheme against the Holy Spirit? Then for sure the Holy Trinity will not mind us to seek the comfort of the blessed mother if it helps us to remember who she was, or is, that is to say the mother of God, bringing us back full circle to where God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit want us in the first place and that is to have them first in our lives, first in our thoughts, and first in the words off the tip of our tongues?

So no brother I am not arguing with you nor am I going to debate the issue, I am a non-denominational chaplain, and I do as the spirit of God commands me, just as he has done with me in writing the response to you with this message.

God bless you and your ministry, and may you bring 100,000 souls to the alter for the Holy Trinity to be glorified and praised from now through eternity. Amen

Rev.Fr. Msgr. Andrew R. M. Manley D.D. Chaplain

And the comment by me that started it all…

The topic in this statement is the Virgin Mother. Although I was raised Catholic, I am first and foremost a born-again Christian, it is that ” I understand and except many different faiths and their beliefs, we can draw from anyone of them at anytime”.

It is biblical and it doesn’t have to be just a Catholic thing or any other denominational thing. If it shows the love and respect that Christ tried to show us and if the angels and the saints were good enough for Christ to call on or God sending them to him, then why does it have to be any other way. It doesn’t.

We all are God fearing and Jesus loving and Holy Spirit blessed Christians, it doesn’t matter to me what church you belong to or belonged to, as long as you except Jesus Christ as your savior and that you believe that he is the son of God and that all things are possible for him. Not impossible.

So I am saying here and now that the blessed mother should be called upon in our hour and time of need and suffering. If God can call upon her for service then so should we.

When we hurt our selves, even when we are older, do we not many times cry out for our mortal mothers? So now that we are Born-Again Christians, that means to me that the Blessed Mother is also our mother, she is our spiritual mother and she is with the Father and the Son and all the saints, RIGHT?

To me some, not all but some traditions, are good and should not be forgotten, the premise with this ministry is the motto of the Universal Life Church which is a non-denominational church and body of clergy from all kinds of backgrounds and beliefs but that doesn’t matter as long as you “do what you know is right”, and I feel it is right and just to give respect to the Virgin Mother, Mary. AMEN !

I’m not chastising anyone here, I’m merely making a point that it is fitting and proper to call on the Holy Mother of Christ in our time of need as well as to Christ himself.

Rev.Fr. Msgr. A.R.M.Manley D.D. Chaplain…